Talk:Poverty threshold

Relative poverty should be split into its own article

It is a concept that clearly has stand-alone notability. It can be mentioned and summarized here, but should be discussed in-depth it its own article. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:53, 15 September 2020 (UTC)

I would say Nah, or at best not yet. We need sufficient detail here to contrast with absolute, which is very important in light of the fuzziness of the whole concept (e.g., number of people per household varies widely). How much more depth do you suggest? Martindo (talk) 03:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)

Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

This article was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment, between 9 November 2021 and 10 December 2021. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Makenna Williams.

Above undated message substituted from Template:Dashboard.wikiedu.org assignment by PrimeBOT (talk) 02:37, 18 January 2022 (UTC)

Gender gap in the US

Going by the linked sources, the article improperly confounds data from different eras, partly ignoring the current situation mentioned in those sources, while acting it would all be data from the same time period, i. e. today.

At first, the average poverty rate for all Americans in 2018 is listed, which was 13.1%. This is then followed shortly after by contrasting the average poverty rate in 2008 (12.3%) with that of women (13.8%) and of men of (11.1%), without giving any year at all for those latter figures within the article text itself, which also cannot be discerned from the given sources, while acting like all those figures would date from the same time period and even talking in the present tense, as if it would be referring to the current situation throughout, stating (without proper evidence in these sources) that the current average rate would be higher for women than for the average American.

Furthermore, one of the three sources given for the above has been permanently depublished and the entire website (which, according to the footnote, dates from 2008) closed down, while the other source that is still available has data from 2020 instead that looks very different, with 12.6% for women, which is decidedly *BELOW* the average powerty rate for all Americans mentioned in the third source referring to 2018. --2003:EF:170A:9264:AD00:5B17:72A9:6BA0 (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Update the lede

The bot restored <ref name WBPL> and <ref name PLWB> but those are both outdated, accessed Jan 2022 when the actual report was issued later in 2022 with higher figures. See WB Fact Sheet cited before "(in PPP)" earlier in the second paragraph. It contains a link to this report with detailed stats including lower-middle and upper-middle "lines": https://documents.worldbank.org/en/publication/documents-reports/documentdetail/353811645450974574/assessing-the-impact-of-the-2017-ppps-on-the-international-poverty-line-and-global-poverty

I hope a human can straighten out the citations along with updating the remaining data. Martindo (talk) 07:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

How is "income" defined?

Does income means only pre-tax money income, which excludes the value of government noncash benefits like health insurance, food stamps, or housing assistance? If so, how does this affect the percentage of Americans in poverty?

I've come across a book which asserts that the American poverty rate is extremely exaggerated (along with the income gap). Some estimates of the value of welfare programs are around triple the official poverty level. Is this a "verifiable fact", a "well-researched viewpoint", or the POV of a such a small minority that it can be excluded from our articles on poverty? --Uncle Ed (talk) 19:19, 25 January 2025 (UTC)